Vince Gilligan is known for creating the TV series Breaking Bad, which is considered one of the best shows in the modern TV era. Having wrapped up that show and the prequel series Better Call Saul, Gilligan is now shifting focus to a completely new show starring Better Call Saul’s Rhea Seehorn. The show is coming to Apple TV+ and is described as being in the sci-fi genre, but not much else is known. Gilligan has now discussed more about what to expect.

He told Variety that the new show is not “heavy” sci-fi, but is more “mild” sci-fi, with a sci-fi element “at its core.” That’s already a big departure from the more grounded Breaking Bad and Better Call Saul franchises. Unlike Breaking Bad and Better Call Saul, the new show has “no crime and no methamphetamine,” Gilligan said.

“It’s going to be fun and different. I have no prediction as to how folks to react to it–whether they’ll love it or hate it, or somewhere in the vast in-between,” he said. “But I know it’s a story that interests me, and Rhea will be playing a very different character than she played on Saul.”

Like Breaking Bad and Better Call Saul, the new series is also set in Albuquerque, New Mexico, “except it’s a whole different world,” Gilligan said.

“The world changes very abruptly in the first episode, and then it is quite different. It’s the modern world–the world we live in–but it changes very abruptly. And the consequences that that reaps hopefully provide drama for many, many episodes after that,” Gilligan said. “I’m nervous. It’ll be interesting to see how folks react to it.”

Also in the interview, Gilligan was asked if he might ever return to the Breaking Bad universe for another project one day. Fans should not hold their breath for this, but anything can happen. Gilligan said if people don’t like his new Apple TV+ series and the next project he works on, and if fans are calling for more Breaking Bad, then he might consider it.

“But what I’d like to do is leave it be. It’s the work of my lifetime,” he said. “And I kind of wonder if there are further stories to tell, but I don’t want to beat a dead horse. I look around and see other storytelling worlds–I’m not going to name names–that feel like, ‘Boy, they are really sucking that last dime out of that franchise.’ I’d hate to see that happen with this. I’d rather err on the side of leaving the party too soon than too late. But never say never. That’s just how I feel right now, but who knows down the line.”